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[*] posted on 4/4/06 at 11:48 AM
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Hey folks sorry to start this one. But I was just curious, do you guys think gay cowboys are the next big thing? I didnt think they existed till a good friend (and son of local legend and cowgirl hall of famer) "came out". He doesnt compete professionally but he is all cowboy to the core.
Has anyone seen the movie, how is it?
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[*] posted on 4/4/06 at 12:46 PM


Just look at all the gay rodeo associations that there are. The gay rodeo association is growing quicker than almost every other rodeo association that there is. Near Houston there is an arena that is owned by several gay couples and they host gay rodeos year round, and playdays for the children of these couples.

You have to look at the percentage of the population that is homosexual or bisexual, it's continuously growing and will continue to grow... so why not gays and rodeo. I welcome them to the sport.

I've got a cousin that is gay and rodeo bulls for years, ropes, is a ranch foreman (and he lives on the ranch he manages with his partner) and he is cowboy as they come.

I haven't had a chance to see broke-back mountain yet. My husband is a ho[Censored]be. He won't make eye contact with my aunt that has been out for 20 years, and only has a friendship with my uncle because they grew up together. Maybe he thinks it's contagous...
But anyway... dragging him into the movies is hard enough, but when the subject matter is questionable, there's no way that you can drag him into the theater. I have heard that it is very good and I can't wait until it comes out on video.
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[*] posted on 4/5/06 at 09:17 PM


As for gays and gay rodeos- one word can sum it up- YUCK!

And for any gays out there who are reading this, I am happily straight!
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[*] posted on 4/5/06 at 09:35 PM


Just to add one thing, That movie is about sheep herders. Now how does sheep herding tie in with cowboys? Now i am with all of you i think it is nasty and wrong.



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[*] posted on 4/6/06 at 11:05 AM


I think some people tie the "cowboy hat" because all true cowboys wear them.
But now it's like being gay is an ethnicity, which is soooo grosss.
And gay rodeo is the most gross idea in the world. There is arena by my house that holds the finals... and they ask the High school rodeoers to help out. haha none of us do. but anyways
Here's something to think about .... If that movie was girls would it still get the controversey that it got for guys????
That movie would have been good if there were straight cowboys in it.

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[*] posted on 4/6/06 at 08:05 PM


i dont have alot to say about the movie. ive never seen it and i probably never will. im not comfortable with the whole gay cowboy and gay rodeo deal, but i guess i have no control over it and i will just deal with it as it comes.



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[*] posted on 4/6/06 at 08:29 PM


yeah same here. I can't stand the whole gay cowboy, gay rodeo, gay ANYTHING, but there's nothing I can do about it. Just accept people as they are I guess... no matter how gross it is. GOD BLESS
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[*] posted on 4/7/06 at 02:33 PM


i have yet to see the movie, im curious and i may watch it.

and what is the big deal about gay people?? it is their personal choice to be like that, and i dont understand why people judge them. how would u like to be judged cause of the style of your hair or something like that. these people want to rodeo, so let them. they started their own association to rodeo with. why cant people be understanding of that. its not like if u go to one u are going to some how be gay when u leave, like bethash said, it is not contagious!!

i have friends that are gay, and they are livestock people. i have shown with them for a few years in high school and they didnt come out until after high school. if they had come out in high school they would probly of had to change schools because of what they kids would have done to them. they are people just like the rest of us. just cause they have a different sexual orientation than us, does not make them bad people!
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[*] posted on 4/7/06 at 09:23 PM


I know two men who own a riding stable in my area who are somehow married & actually have been for several years...Its interesting. It would be easy to be rude about them because they also have questionable horsemanship methods...but you know, the whole "gay cowboy" deal is just ridiculous. There are gay everythings... cowboys, "gangstas", whatever else... And while I believe homosexuality is a sin, I also believe that all sins are equal in the Lord's eyes. So I guess I'm in no place to judge them. Just because the sins I commit are more along the lines of lying and occasionally gossiping, not being homosexual, that doesn't make me any more "holy". Romans 3:23-24.

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[*] posted on 4/8/06 at 09:11 AM


well yall are probably going to hate me but here goes. I'm bi and i came out a month ago since then my friends hate me, my boyfriend dumped me, and my mom is scared of me. This aint fair im not some nasty cheating little [Censored]. I just dont understand why everyone turned their backs on me god even my own mother. I just wanna know why this had to happen. i didnt want to be this way i tried very very hard to fight it so why?
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[*] posted on 4/8/06 at 11:11 AM


I do not believe anymore in "Gay Rodeo Associations" than I would if the PBR called themselves "the Hetrosexsual PBR". There is no place in rodeo for the public display of sexual preference. It has nothing to do with rodeo or living the Western Lifestyle. It is not an ethnic group and should not be treated as one. Our sex lives are a personal matter between each individual and God. As long as I have any control over the content of Rodeo Attitude it will not recognize these associations. If they want to compete they can compete in other associations. To my knowledge there is no association that asks sexual preferance on their application. We don't ask athletes, "Are you gay?" World Champions don't talk about their sexsual preference - they talk about their event and their ride. End of sentence. We do not nor never will endorse any type of "hatred" toward any person and never will. In summary, I just don't believe sexual preference has anything to do with rodeo. I hope this answers some of the questions coming my way.
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[*] posted on 4/8/06 at 02:00 PM


I saw the movie last night, and if you get over the "gayness" of it, its a good movie. I'm with Mary on this one, as long as they arent bothering you, whats wrong with it? Nothing. They are people just like us, no matter what they do on their personal time. If people would get over the shock of "Oh my god, he/she's gay!" and got to know the person, I think they would find that they arent all that bad. I mean, really, how many of the people that "hate" gays really know some? A lot of people dont agree with it, and I understand that. But then there's the people that hate it, not because they have reason to, but because everyone else does. Just like the rest of our society.

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[*] posted on 4/8/06 at 08:40 PM


Brokeback mountain was a brilliant film you must watch the film, as for gay cowboys each to their own!
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[*] posted on 4/8/06 at 10:48 PM


I think it's stupid to think that homosexuality is "gross" or "yucky". It's close minded and immature in my opinion. It's their choice (or their born with it) and they can't help it. You should atleast respect others, even if you may not understand why they might be attracted to the same sex.

As for gay rodeos, to each their own. I would never attend one, just because that's too weird (considering I'm straight) and I'm used to erm..."straight" rodeos. So yeah.

I find Jake Gyllenhaul extremely hot in brokeback mountain, even though he's with a guy most of the time. :P
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[*] posted on 4/8/06 at 10:53 PM


I'm just tired of it because people are treating me different because I wear a cowbot hat. I get so tired of it. I never thought anything about gay people before, but now they think they're so much better than anyone, and have more rights. They have pushed me out of the way, called me names and a lot of other stuff, that's why I hate the movie. I'll never see it. I think it's wrong that the movie people are targeting Cowboy's, the few that are left now are being cut down. But that's just me and how I feel. Nothing bad towards anyone. God Bless



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[*] posted on 4/8/06 at 11:23 PM


Yeah i am with AJ(Cowboy05) i have been treated different cause of this. I dont like it one bit. I have fought about it and ended up prooving my point the hard way. Even though the people out there are too stupid because they think that every yayhoo that puts on a hat is a cowboy. They are sheep herders. wooly boys, not cowboys.

barrelracinbeth: you kinda went against what you said. here is a quote "I think it's stupid to think that homosexuality is "gross" or "yucky". It's close minded and immature in my opinion" a few lines away "As for gay rodeos, to each their own. I would never attend one, just because that's too weird "

Now i am against it whole heartedly. But i gotta think of the Christian thing to do. I shouldnt judge. but i still think it is disgusting no matter if it is man or woman.

But one thing. We cant say God, or Jesus anymore, but we hear about Gay and Lesbian every day.

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[*] posted on 4/8/06 at 11:33 PM


barrelracinbeth: you kinda went against what you said. here is a quote "I think it's stupid to think that homosexuality is "gross" or "yucky". It's close minded and immature in my opinion" a few lines away "As for gay rodeos, to each their own. I would never attend one, just because that's too weird "


I didn't want that to sound contradictory but what I was saying is I'm not used to gay rodeos, so it would just be an awkward experience. It doesn't mean I don't respect gay people. It just means it would be awkward to attend....that's what I was tryin to get at. :)
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[*] posted on 4/8/06 at 11:48 PM


I know whay you where saying. I think that they are far beyond gross. so i guess that i am immiture then huh??



Some people say that the cowboy is a dieing breed, then some people just dont listen.

You are only human, flesh and bone, you bruise, you bleed, and sometimes you break. And while forces beyond your control impose new scars on top of old ones you know they will never harm what is on the inside. Mental Toughness, Courage, and a competitive drive that taunts nature 8 seconds at a time.


You can sit and talk about what you have done, or can do, but those words dont mean a thing until you get you butt out and proove it


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[*] posted on 4/9/06 at 01:09 AM


think about this...if a gay cowboy were to go to a regular rodeo to compeate and the other cowboys found out he was gay....i dont think it would be a very pretty sight. when they hold their own rodeos, they are not going to be judged there because of their sexual preference. if u dont like the fact that there is a gay rodeo association, then ignore it. that is the way i look at it.

cody...there are alot of types of cowboys....guys that rodeo, show horses ( reining, cutting, performance etc), ranchers (beef, dairy, sheep, hogs, etc) and a ton of other 'types'. and then there are people who are not cowboys that wear a cowboy hat....since when do u have to be a true cowboy in order to wear a cowboy hat?? i think i missed that news flash..
(and that sounds real b*tchy, lol..)

aj....for people judging u on the fact that u wear a hat shows how ignorant people really are. and most gay people i know do not think they are better than me. there are a few out there like that and those are people that people remember so they assume all are like that.
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[*] posted on 4/9/06 at 01:21 AM


That is not what i am saying. I am saying that alot of people think that just cause someone wears a hat they are real cowboys. even if they are not cowboys at all.
Mary: what is the FIRST word in cowboy. hmmm lets think bout that. is it sheep? naw not quite.(start jeopardy theme). ohh i got it! it is cow isnt it?!?!!?! cow as in cattle.(ya know the big packages on hamburgers wrapped in hide with baseball bats hanging off the side of his head) not mutton boy, not lamb boy, not pig boy, cowboy. Now sheep ranchers are called wooly boys. and pig ranchers are called stinky ( no offence to anybody, all of em that i have known didnt smell so good).




Some people say that the cowboy is a dieing breed, then some people just dont listen.

You are only human, flesh and bone, you bruise, you bleed, and sometimes you break. And while forces beyond your control impose new scars on top of old ones you know they will never harm what is on the inside. Mental Toughness, Courage, and a competitive drive that taunts nature 8 seconds at a time.


You can sit and talk about what you have done, or can do, but those words dont mean a thing until you get you butt out and proove it


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[*] posted on 4/9/06 at 08:45 AM


I wasn't saying you're immature Cody, I was saying that sexyblonde_barrel (whatever her name is) and blueberry wine are immature...people like them are close minded.

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[*] posted on 4/9/06 at 08:47 AM


I understand what everyone is saying. As far as the gay rodeo I would never go and see it, but that doesn't mean that someone else shouldn't go if they like it. What ever and who ever they are or like they're people, but I don't think they should cut down cowboy's with the movie. God Bless



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[*] posted on 4/9/06 at 01:30 PM


cody..if u were to have read what i said, i said there is a wide varities of 'cowboys'. i guess out in california we are different cause we tend to just throw it into a broad category. so are u saying that all the guys that deal with horses are not cowboys?? what do u call them where u are from? cause we call em cowboys out here too.... hhmm...just wondering.

and i know what cattle are...i have delt with them for years and i know quite abit about them..just like i have delt with just about all livestock species. so before u think i dont know about livestock..think again
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Well...its hard to say what exactly is a "cowboy". I've run into crowds that don't think folks who do reining, wp, or even barrels are "real" cowboys/cowgirls because their event of choice doesn't involve cattle...I personally think that's really petty. Does that mean a barrel racer isn't a cowgirl? To me, it's just a name. Who cares if I'm a "cowgirl", a "horsewoman", a "wrangler" or whatever else you might call someone who works horses? (I'm a ranch hand, so yes, I do work with cattle as well. That's beside the point, lol.) I think that being a "cowboy/cowgirl" is more about the style of horsemanship than the activity. Now obviously, if you ride pleasure horses or cutting horses or roping horses, there are gonna be those differences. But nonetheless, the styles all originated from the first cowboys, the ones who created the sports in the first place. That's just my 2 cents..to each her own.

But then, there are also those people who swear up and down that all it takes to be a cowgirl is having the attitude & wearing western wear...which I think is a load of bull. No two cowgirls will have the same attitude. Sure, there are common traits- being hard working, having a lot of try- but the same could be said for any number of other "kinds" of people. That's not being a cowgirl. Almost nothing drives me crazy faster than someone who goes out and buys Cruel Girl jeans, couple hundred dollar boots, a 20x felt hat, and they think that makes them a "better cowgirl" than me, in my old ropers, a baseball cap, and Wranglers... My "qualifications" for a "cowgirl" all are in horsemanship. Don't care if you look like the next Miss Rodeo America, if you don't have the skill to back it up, you're no cowgirl.

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[*] posted on 4/9/06 at 02:14 PM


mary i am just picken a fight. but to get technical people who work with horses, are called horsemen.



Some people say that the cowboy is a dieing breed, then some people just dont listen.

You are only human, flesh and bone, you bruise, you bleed, and sometimes you break. And while forces beyond your control impose new scars on top of old ones you know they will never harm what is on the inside. Mental Toughness, Courage, and a competitive drive that taunts nature 8 seconds at a time.


You can sit and talk about what you have done, or can do, but those words dont mean a thing until you get you butt out and proove it


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