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PRCA, PWBR, WPRA
True colors? The PRCA has jerked approval from one of the PRCA Rodeos of the Year. Why? Because that rodeo has decided to keep the WPRA. So much
for the PRCA's word. 
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KarenMartin
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I saw that post on BHW this morning too.
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For the record, this thread is about the Hamel Rodeo in MN.
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TwineTwirler
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FYI the thread on BHW about the PRCA withdrawing their approval of the Hamel Rodeo because they have a WPRA barrel race was frozen yesterday.
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Yes there is no doubt in my mind why this would be considered a HOT topic ... it sure will be interesting to see what happens at the BOD meeting this
week in San Antonio.
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Now the WPRA has proof of the tactics that the PRCA is using to strong arm the committees, so now this will probably go back to court. ( Just my
guess)
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Ok, as I have stated numerous times in here, I do not know all the going ons of what is happening other than lot of people upset at one side or the
other. I do feel bad that the Hamel Rodeo has run into this problem. I read on the PRCA web page that a rodeo may use the WPRA as a sanctioning body
for barrell racing, but may not say the rodeo is PRCA sanctioned in full, only the events the PRCA has listed. Now from my outsiders view, what I am
interpretting is this: Hamel can use PRCA as part of the rodeo but may not advertise the full rodeo as PRCA sanctioned. If I see this right, they
still get the endorsement of PRCA, to an extent. It even states that any rodeo may use any sanctioning body for barrell racing, but the only group
PRCA will allow a rodeo to say PRCA sanctioned rodeo is the PWBR.
This was in place when the original "disagreement" was agreed on to disagree so to speak and as far as what I have read, this letter was sent to all
rodeos so they could see what had happened.
I am by no means pointing fingers or placing blame, but I guess what it boils down to, is this the same t hing everybody else has seen/read regarding
the post of the letter on the PRCA page?
edited cause my fingers do not know which key is where!!
[Edited on 2/1/07 by Driskill]
Simple as Dirt
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KarenMartin
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Driskell,
Shorty Dorweiler, Hamel Rodeo committee guy, posted on BHW:
“The PRCA has notified the Hamel (MN) Rodeo & Bull Ridin' Bonanza that they (the PRCA) is witdrawing their approval ! This is directly related to our
having a WPRA barrel race.”
and then later for clarification purposes Shorty posted:
“Want to make one thing very clear. Hamel will NEVER EVEN CONSIDER sanctioning a RODEO with some other association. We worked too hard over the years
to get where we are at and we will not go backwards”
My personal interpretation is that because Hamel elected to honor their long standing association/contract(?) with WPRA, the PRCA decided it really is
“my way or the highway” so the PRCA withdrew their approval (also known as sanctioning and/or PRCA endorsement) for the *entire* rodeo. So in my
humble opinion either Hamel (1) drops WPRA and decides to go with PWBR so they can get PRCA sanctioning, (2) go with another rodeo association, (3)
they can cancel their rodeo in July, or (4) if I assume that there already was a contract in place between Hamel and the PRCA, and if the PRCA just
breached said contract with Hamel, no doubt Hamel will now research their legal options.
Again, as I noted in a post above, it will be very interesting to see what happens at the BOD meeting in San Antonio this week with this new
development. There is always hope that the BOD will be able to reverse the decision and get Hamel [re]sanctioned.
The kicker is this: I sincerely doubt that Hamel was the only rodeo committee who has lost their approval but at this time, Shorty appears to be the
only committee man that has posted what happened this week on a web site.
So if anyone knows anyone associated with a committee who also prefers to have a WPRA race, please contact them and see if they also received a letter
from the PRCA withdrawing their approval too. No one should assume that only Hamel has received a letter, no doubt there are other committees in this
situation as well.
Last but not least Driskell, I admit that I laughed when I read that you wrote, "I read on the PRCA web page that a rodeo may use the WPRA as a
sanctioning body for barrell racing, but may not say the rodeo is PRCA sanctioned in full".
Uh huh ... welcome to my side of the fence. Please note I no longer own a pair of rose colored glasses.
[Edited on 2/1/07 by KarenMartin]
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TwineTwirler
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It's been an interesting day on the River Walk! 
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I agree!!!! Remember the Alamo!!!
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It's been four days since Shorty made his posts on BHW. Since then another poster (Bossycowgirl) asked for some details because she was wary of words
like " related to". Shorty has not posted an answer. Others have slammed Bossycowgirl for asking for some details. I find the terminology "related to"
a little vague myself. I wish Shorty would post the letter from the PRCA so we could all see it. Then there would be no controversy. We could contact
our reps and express outrage, disgust or however you feel about it. But until I know there are not other issues involved, I hesitate to do that.
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KarenMartin
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Shorty Dorweiler posted the following last night on BHW; therefore his references to a thread and board in the first two paragraphs would
pertain to BHW:
First, let it be very clear that I have no knowledge of the status of the other rodeos referenced in this thread.
Second, the matter of Hamel has been on the board long enough that an update is warranted/necessary.
I have had no less than 4 phone conversations with the new Chairman of the Board of the PRCA on this matter. He has been very gracious, understanding
of and in agreement with our position, and concerned with what has transpired. Neither he or the other 10 or more Directors and Executive Council
members I contacted by phone were aware of the correspondence we had received until being contacted by me. He also informed me both he and the Board,
once they were furnished the entire correspondence by me, have come to the conclusion that this needs to be resolved to our satisfaction. He made it
quite clear he expects this to be done by the office and instructed me to call him again if that does not happen. However, as of early this evening I
have not received any official notice from the office that our sanction will now stand. If and when that happens I will immediately post an update .
I get the strong impression that given the changes in the Board structure things will be handled in a more businesslike manner from now on.
Shorty Dorweiler
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Happy
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Karen,
Thank you, for bringing us (me) up to speed on the Hamel situation. Sounds like Shorty is doing everything humanly possibe to get it resolved ASAP. I
will stay tuned!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Happy
Karen,
Thank you, for bringing us (me) up to speed on the Hamel situation. Sounds like Shorty is doing everything humanly possibe to get it resolved ASAP. I
will stay tuned! |
OMG Happy, I can't believe you aren't wanting to string KM up from the nearest tree.
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Who is the new Chairman of the board?
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Keith Martin is the answer to that ?. I feel that is a good move since they are grooming him for the commisioners job anyway.
[Edited on 2/6/07 by PRCA]
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TwineTwirler
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Since Karen's brother is now Chairman, y'all are gonna have to start believing what she says.
Maybe you'll get a little slack now, Karen.
TT
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WOW! Thanks for the heads up, Twirler. I had totally overlooked the family connection. Every since their Aunt Mary had starred on Broadway in Peter
Pan and South Pacific, they've had a lot of clout.
From now on this buckeroo will toe the line!
(If you're still reading this, you better read fast. I think it's about to be taken down. Buffoonery and jockularity are a big no-no around here!)
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KarenMartin
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Twirler, I have no idea how you found out that I have a brother named Keith ... and now that Happy has spilled the beans re Aunt Mary, it will only be
a matter of time before he makes the connection re Uncle Dean too! Yeppers, Martins have always had fun in Las Vegas, especially at the NFR.
[Edited on 2/8/07 by KarenMartin]
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KM, what ever happend to Rowan?
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Unfortunatly KM is telling the truth on some subjects. It will come out soon.
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What happened to Tom Feller? Was he replaced or did he retire or what? It takes a score card to keep up with who is in what position.
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KarenMartin
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Tom Feller was replaced.
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They are grooming Kieth Martin to take over as commisioner. Just wait and see.
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Grooming, eh? I saw Keith on THE DVD. He didn't seem to require any more grooming than any other male of the species. But looks can be deceiving, I
guess.
However, it's funny how so many people from different parts of the country that don't even know each other can hear pretty much the same stuff.
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